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Streaming radio to 3G phones

  • Andy

Nokia smartphones now ship with a Real Audio player and 3G is easily fast enough to support audio streaming but currently no bbc .ram files play on these phones. So currently I can't catch up on my favourite shows on my way home from work which would be fantastic.


However, it would seem to be only a small step to change the encoding on these files and so allow them to be played. Links could then be provided from the bbc mobile site or the excellent bbc pda site.

Given the time/money I would be interesting in exploring this, especially as I work for one of the UK mobile operators. I am sure the operator would be interested in sharing a proportion of the network revenue with the BBC if steaming a 1/2hr file generates several Mb of traffic over the network (at a cost to the user of around £1-2 depending on tariff).

  • 19 May 2005 12:05 PM

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  • On 19 May 2005 02:31 PM,
  • Steve said:

We have tried this for use with in-car computing.

From our tests, the 3g service is not consistent enough to play back the current bit-rate real media files, while it works in some places it's not suitable for using on, for example the train, or in a car.

Also, with the license fee surely it would be unreasonable to charge again for content that's already been paid for.

I think the most cost-effective method would be if mobile manufacturers migrated from the current FM-tuners and looked towards DAB chipsets integrated in mobile phones. The obvious benefit to consumers (not the networks) is that consumers could take advantage of TPEG traffic information for free.

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  • On 19 May 2005 04:55 PM,
  • Rich said:

£1-£2 for half an hour is too much. If you did this every day on your way home from work, you're talking a minimum of an extra £20/month at that rate. This kind of thing (I think Virgin is already doing it) isn't going to work until bandwidth costs are significantly reduced (or you're lucky enough to have unlimited bandwidth, which I think some tarrifs support).

"migrated from the current FM-tuners and looked towards DAB chipsets"

Yup spot on. Unless the analouge signal is killed old technology like FM tuners phased out ... the evolution won't happen soon enough to stave off the threat of comercial podcasts, by which point you could podcast in RealFormat to a 1GB SD card in the phone or something similar if you really have the money to do so.

.ram files don't in themselves have audio data in them? Hey we could get 3G to set up somesort of bitTorrent service :) Off topic but I see the current situation with mobile bandwidth being too cost prohibative to do much with mobile rich multimedia.

The BBC streams from http://dave.org.uk/streams/ work fine for me on my Nokia 6680.

Given that Orange UK are offering 1000MB of free data per month for the first 3 months of new 3G contracts I can se a lot of people trying this.

Personally I'd love a lower bitrate mono mp3 stream of the main stations.

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